tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post4266158755234109125..comments2023-04-06T17:12:42.978+01:00Comments on A Just Future: Fair for All: The shape of things to come?Jon Harveyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12792245973965010468noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-68914349539698042882013-03-25T09:22:57.527+00:002013-03-25T09:22:57.527+00:00I am also not sure what should be the reformed gov...I am also not sure what should be the reformed governance structure for policing and crime. I think Bob has put in place something akin to a mini police authority - even down to its membership - but of course he has that power to do so. The whole PCC structure is predicated upon large amounts of power being invested in a single individual. <br /><br />For me it is no surprise that he has chosen former members of the PA - he needs people whom he can trust, people who know something about policing and crime from a governance perspective and people who (I presume) will challenge him. As Machiavelli said - good leaders require people to tell them the truth not sycophancy.Jon Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12792245973965010468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-24891068066505058372013-03-25T09:17:31.878+00:002013-03-25T09:17:31.878+00:00I agree - the case for PCCs is not won in the publ...I agree - the case for PCCs is not won in the public mind. And see above, the existing governance structure will be reformed. <br /><br />However, they are here to stay, probably for at least their 3.5 year terms and so the question becomes - how do we make the structure work as well as possible.Jon Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12792245973965010468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-66230347619066054922013-03-25T09:15:43.325+00:002013-03-25T09:15:43.325+00:00This might also be how a reformed PCC governance s...This might also be how a reformed PCC governance structure looks as well. I would put money on that all parties are now considering how to reform the PCC structure in the future - even though we are not yet six months in - even the Conservatives who must be disappointed in the way that it went.<br /><br />You are right about data - but I would add that behind that is the ability to ask good questions - that for me is probably one of the most critical governance roles.Jon Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12792245973965010468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-58965839483213171942013-03-24T21:44:39.007+00:002013-03-24T21:44:39.007+00:00The West Midlands PCC announced this week the memb...The West Midlands PCC announced this week the members of the Strategic Policing and Crime Board, after sixty applications and each has a mini-bio on:http://www.westmidlands-pcc.gov.uk/governance/strategic-policing-and-crime-board/members-of-the-strategic-policing-and-crime-board<br /><br />The announcement included an explanation by Bob Jones: 'Collectively, they are a balanced and representative group also. Among them there is a former chair and two vice-chairs of the police authority. Cath Hannon is a former senior police officer, who stood against me in the recent election. The three major political parties are represented, and the board members come from across the West Midlands. There is a mix of gender and ethnicity that is more representative of our area'.<br /><br />What is astonishing is that of the seven appointees five have served on the Police Authority: Foster, Nazir, Connor, Hendricks & Sawdon. There is very little "new blood" here.<br /><br />It remains early days for the PCC and what difference have they made? I am not convinced what is needed is a mini-police authority.<br />davidbfpohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14530167181611729116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-48802036810170534822013-03-24T19:53:16.621+00:002013-03-24T19:53:16.621+00:00If you accept the need for PCC's then you have...If you accept the need for PCC's then you have to accept the need for a panel of suitable individuals to assist the PCC. They should of course be recruited through sound, fair and open recruitment practices not appointed because they are mates of the PCC.<br /><br />If you don't accept the need for PCC's then you don't accept the need for an ever expanding supporting cast. <br /><br />As more than 80% of the potential voters decided not to vote then I think the argument is there that people do not accept the needs for PCC's and therefore this is at the least a complete waste of public money or a deliberate policy to spend public money unnecessarily.Steve Batchelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15130458156574815777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1666579996787484678.post-22182393058864528122013-03-24T18:12:14.280+00:002013-03-24T18:12:14.280+00:00Jon - very interesting. A key subject.
This is p...Jon - very interesting. A key subject.<br /><br />This is precisely how a reformed Police Authority should have looked. People selected for their skills and knowledge; a new meeting timetable and structure, moving to places throughout a constabulary area; invites to groups across constabulary areas; encouragement of questions from the public and officials. <br /><br />My only remaining point is whether the Board has a sufficient understanding of police data and whether the PCC has staff who can analyse and present it to Board members in a manner that allows them to probe behind the figures. If not, little will be achieved.<br /><br />Simon HoldawayThinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12303081806405280816noreply@blogger.com